So how much better is this kid really?
Josh Freeman had a fantastic statistical game last Sunday. He completed 75% of his passes, threw for 241 yards and 10 yards per attempt, scored two touchdowns and added a first down on the ground to his statistics. He had a Passer Rating of 134.2, and Football Outsiders listed his day as the 5th best of the weekend, which is quite an accomplishment on a weekend where Tom Brady, Michael Vick and Kyle Orton had 3 of the best games of the year. And that production led to what was the 5th best game in terms of yards per offensive play in Buccaneers history, and the best such game since 2000.
That kind of game is a credit to Josh Freeman and the work he put in to improve during the offseason. This year he's started 9 games so far, just as many as he started last year, but he's looked like a completely different quarterback this year. Coming into the year I expected improvement, but he's surpassed any expectation I may have had. So let's look at that improvement, how much better do the numbers really say he is?
We'll start with the conventional numbers from Pro Football Reference, you'll find his rank among all NFL QBs with at least 100 pass attempts in parentheses:
| Year | Completions | Attempts | Completion % | Yards | Yards/Attempt | TDs | INTs | Passer Rating | Sacks | Sack Yardage | Fumbles | Recovered |
| 2009 | 158(27) | 290(27) | 54.6%(38) | 1857(28) | 6.4(25) | 10(26) | 18(4) | 59.9(40) | 20(27) | 102(31) | 10(11) | 6(1) |
| 2010 | 164(17) | 270(18) | 60.7%(22) | 1963(17) | 7.3(15) | 12(14) | 5(23) | 90.1(16) | 16(15) | 108(14) | 4(15) | 3(11) |
The interesting thing here is how good he is relative to the rest of the league. Where in 2009 he ranked somewhere in the high 20s or 30s on most of these traditional rankings, now he's ranked somewhere between 15th and 20th for most of these stats. Freeman was one of the worst QBs in the league last year, and now he's a top-20 quarterback now. The biggest improvement may have come in the number of turnovers. Not only has he cut down on the interceptions, but he's fumbled the ball far less on a comparable number of sacks. While Freeman has been lucky this season with a few dropped interceptions, that happens to every quarterback and ball security was a focus for him in the offseason. Josh Freeman isn't close to the top of the league right now, but he's certainly on the right path.
While those numbers show a pretty big improvement, the traditional statistics are limited in their meaning. They don't take into account the schedule, and they fail to incorporate different game situations. Which is why we'll take a look at the advanced statistics as well.
First, a quick explanation of these statistics. AY/A and ANY/A stand for Adjusted Yards per Attempt and Adjusted Net Yards per Attempt respectively. Both of those stats are tracked by Pro Football Reference and explained here. Basically, AY/A measures yards per attempt, with touchdowns being worth 20 yards and interceptions -45 yards. ANY/A does the same thing, but includes yards lost on sacks. WPA/G and EPA/P stand for Win Probability Added per Game and Expected Points Added per Play respectively. These stats are courtesy of Advanced NFL Stats. Basically, WPA attempts to measure how much your quarterback's play moved the team towards a win, while EPA measures how many points his play was expected to produce. Lastly, DVOA and DYAR are stats invented by Football Outsiders to measure the efficiency of an offense, taking into account the game situation and the opponent. DVOA expresses in a percentage how much better than replacement level a quarterback has been playing, while DYAR expresses the same thing in yardage. DVOA is a per play measure, so a high volume will not effect this statistic. DYAR measures the sum of a quarterback's contribution over a season, so that statistic is affected by the number of passes thrown. On to the numbers!
| Year | AY/A | ANY/A | WPA/G | EPA/P | DVOA | DYAR |
| 2009 | 4.29(39) | 3.69(37) | -0.11(32) | -0.11(34) | -26.2%(39) | -295(39) |
| 2010 | 7.33(10) | 6.54(12) | 0.27(4) | 0.17(10) | 16.3%(19) | 496(13) |
Well that's pretty clearly a humongous improvement. What's interesting here is that Freeman's advanced statistics don't just look better than his regular statistics this year, but that his 2009 season looks much worse when examined with advanced statistics. Clearly the advanced statistics say he was a disastrously bad quarterback in 2009. But the 2010 version of Josh Freeman's is seen as a top-15 quarterback all around, with WPA/G even rating him the 4th best quarterback in the league. However, one thing about that statistic really stands out to me: he's just 10th in EPA/P. This means that he's very good at getting the team in position to win games, but not necessarily as good at getting the team in position to score points. That's an odd anomaly I can't really explain, my knowledge of these statistics isn't good enough for that. Still, whether you look at WPA or EPA, 2010 Josh Freeman is vastly better than 2009 Josh Freeman.
Finally, there's one more thing I want to note. The most amazing thing about this improvement is that he's the second youngest QB in the league, behind Matt Stafford. Yes, he's younger than Colt McCoy, Sam Bradford, Jimmy Clausen or any other QB drafted in 2010. Not only has he improved a lot from his first to his second year, he's far from a finished product and there's a lot of room for improvement. If he continues to improve like this it won't take long for him to become a top-5 quarterback in this league.
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Adding to it, his INT rate
has dropped from a 6.2 to a 1.9.
...the Seminole guy from the other site.
alex van pelt deserves some credit
unlike last yr when olsen had to do both being a o-cord and develop freeman, van pelt got hired to work with freeman close up and clean up his bad habits that got him in trouble last yr… of course our guy participated in every work out and studied film all offseason hes the total opposite of coughs jamarcus russel… i also think getting rid of antonio bryant had helped him if you guys remember a lot of freemans ints went in bryants direction he was never a good route runner and gave no effort to bail out freemans bad passes plus he had a history of being a bad influence on young qbs… i dont know about you guys but dam it feels good to finally have a franchise qb
I went over all Freeman's interceptions last year
If I recall correctly, maybe 3 or 4 of them were Bryant’s fault. A lot of them were solely on Freeman throwing a bad ball or making a bad decision.
He's reading the defenses better this year
And starting to get respect from them. Last year he was blitzed to death & it could have broken him.
To his credit he’s settled down and can better take advantage of blitzes.
The future is bright :-)
by RotatedCuff on Nov 20, 2010 7:01 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Just imagine how good he could be...
if we could give him the same amount of time that Michael Vick, Tom Brady and Peyton get from their OL. Need some “hog” upgrades – stat.
by Cracker Ball on Nov 20, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
Although the QBs you mention are also good at buying time either with their reading & adjustments or the threat of their feet.
Freeman is developing that too, he’s gonna be scary.
I just wish we’d get the same quality tutelage for the DL that Free’s had. Then we’d be looking at deep playoff runs
by RotatedCuff on Nov 20, 2010 9:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I dont think Wash is the guy.
White and Miller have regressed and I haven’t seen Kyle Moore develop at all.
But it also a combination of a lack of talent.
...the Seminole guy from the other site.
Despite the infusion of new players...
we have not improved. If fact, we may have regressed somewhat.
by Cracker Ball on Nov 21, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
We are just now really bringing in new guys
The majority of the line rotation are guys who are holdovers from last season.
Maybe Woods will show us something when he gets more snaps. We have pieces, we just need to continue adding and subtracting guys. Moore should be released….lol.
Woods has looked decent with limited playing time so far
Not a great pass rusher, but solid against the run.
We have 2 new players at the S positions...
and a new starting DE and DT, so that makes 4.
Lost DE Wilkerson to NO and replacing S Piscatelli is addition by subtraction. Don’t seem to be any better on DEF than last year, given we are playing a last place schedule this season, and a first place schedule last season. The ST play and the Freeman/Williams/Blount combo has us where we are.
by Cracker Ball on Nov 21, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
The D line doesnt look too different to me... but I confess, I do wear glasses
71 Michael Bennett DE
96 Tim Crowder DE
93 Gerald McCoy DT
97 Alex Magee DE been inactive since we’ve had him
90 Roy Miller DT
94 Kyle Moore DE
98 Ryan Sims DT
91 Stylez G. White DE
95 Al Woods DT
2009 DL
71 Michael Bennett DE
96 Tim Crowder DE
95 Chris Hovan DT
93 Roy Miller DT
92 Dre Moore DT
94 Kyle Moore DE
98 Ryan Sims DT
91 Stylez G. White D
Jimmy Wilkerson DE
Compare starting D-lines
Last game of ’09 the starting line was: Crowder, Sims, Hovan, Wilkerson
First game of ’10: Moore, Miller, McCoy, White
White was truly the Starting DE though.
Still, you are right.
I just think individually speaking, Wash isn’t getting the job done in development. I think he doesn’t scheme well. In his defense though, the talent isn’t there or is too young
...the Seminole guy from the other site.
Oh I don't disagree with that
I don’t think I’ve seen anyone improve over his tenure, except maybe Gerald McCoy the past few games.

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