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Is Jermaine Phillips done in Tampa?

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A quick, reactionary look to the news that Phillips has been placed on Injured Reserve. 

Jermaine Phillips was a free agent at the end of 2008. After testing the market and not finding an offer or suitor that appealed to him, the Bucs offered him a one year "prove it" deal.  I was a little surprised that he garnered virtually no interest on the open market.  He's still young for a defensive back, having turned 30 this year.  He has an injury history, but for someone who flies around, it would seem he could have been a viable replacement somewhere.

Well, here we are in September of 2009 and Phillips didn't even make it out of the first month.  

Star-divide

He entered the league in 2002 as a rookie out of Georgia.  He was on the Super Bowl team, though he didn't play much.  Excluding 2009, over the next six seasons, Phillips would play a full slate of games only once, in 2006.  Discounting the rookie season and this year, he averaged 13 games a year, with an average of 12 starts a year. 

The knock on Phillips has been tackling (missed tackle stats are not kept) and durability. I wondered how he compared to his peers at the strong safety position. 

I went to NFL.com and sorted all players by position type and focused on strong safeties.  I pulled eight starting strong safeties over the last few years to see how many games they played on average.  I won't include their rookie year unless they started over 10 games and I won't include 2009 as it is not a completed season.  (It should be noted that the players I picked were those listed at SS on NFL.com and those that I knew had been in the league longer than 3 years) 

These are games played with games started in parenthesis

Marquand Manuel - 15.29 (7.43)

Troy Polamalu - 14.66 (14.4)

Bob Sanders - 9.75 (9.75)

Roy L. Williams - 14 (13.57)

Chris Hope - 15.2 (12.5)

Adrian Wilson - 14.57 (14.29)

Mike Brown - 11.11 (11)

Renaldo Hill - 13.71 (11.71)

Flip falls right in that range.  Very few players see a full season.  It could be a product of the position.  Usually brought into the box and moving forward at the tackle, perhaps this sees an increase in injury.  Strong safeties are also seen as the "big hitters' on the team, and I would fathom a guess that the more violent the pursuit or collision, the higher the likelihood of injury opportunity.

This may be it for Phillips in Tampa.  But as a fan I'm weary and would warn others that if his performance isn't up to your standards, that's one thing, but to knock his durability.  Well, he falls right in line with these other eight players.  With no real depth at safety, we either roll the dice with Sabby next year, bring Flip back, or draft a game changer (which seems to be the most popular opinion.  Personally, I'd rather draft DL and bring in a free agent/servicable guy in the secondary, if possible).   We likely won't know if he will be a Buccaneer until mid March or April, so for now, thanks for the memories Flip.

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To be completely honest, good riddance.

I don’t have the time or the tape to go through the number of bad tackles and bad plays Jermaine has made since he was named a starter, but he is among the worst safeties in the league. His good reputation stems from three things: the defensive staff’s obsession with him (misguided), his hard hits (which happen once for every three missed tackles), and any lack of obvious melt downs in pass coverage (which is because he was neither fast nor aware enough to be in the right position in the first place.)

by Suttree on Sep 30, 2009 3:26 PM EDT reply actions  

The trick with backups is once they get into the lineup you remember why they were backups.

But, yeah, I would have no problem with him staying on a cheaper contract, being used in certain situations, and playing teams.

As bad as Sabby has been, Jermaine doesn’t deserve to start ahead of either Piscatelli or Tanard (who is just fantastic and should find better ways to mask marijuana).

For the record, I was a huge fan of the little safety we used to have who’s name I’ve forgotten and moved on to the Lions after Marinelli took over. Great teams player and never screwed up when he entered the game.

by Suttree on Sep 30, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kalvin Pearson?

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by Buc Wild on Sep 30, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes!

Loved him to death. Turns out he might have loved his girlfriend a little too much, so it’s probably good I kept my distance.

by Suttree on Sep 30, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Those injury numbers surprised me.

It makes sense though. I find it hard to consider Bob Sanders an elite SS when he plays 9 games a season.

If they can re-structure his deal (what is it btw?) I would love to see him stick around as a back-up, if he can accept that role.

"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"

by MNeilson on Sep 30, 2009 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I suppose they wouldn't have to

technically re-structure with a 1 year deal.

"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"

by MNeilson on Sep 30, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

he doesnt actually play 9 games a season, just averages.

his seasons when he didnt miss half the year, he was elite.

by Hook85 on Oct 1, 2009 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just wanna know

why you so obsessed with me?

J.J LOVE SPREADS while RAHEEM MORRIS'S PLAN FOR NFLDOMINECION IS COMING TO AN END.

by 4QB on Sep 30, 2009 7:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Who is obsessed with you?

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by Buc Wild on Sep 30, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good god. man

its musical sarcasm..

J.J LOVE SPREADS while RAHEEM MORRIS'S PLAN FOR NFLDOMINECION IS COMING TO AN END.

by 4QB on Sep 30, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry,

Im not down with the hippity hop muzak

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by Buc Wild on Sep 30, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its not even

Hippity hop bruh. It’s pop- man- pop.

J.J LOVE SPREADS while RAHEEM MORRIS'S PLAN FOR NFLDOMINECION IS COMING TO AN END.

by 4QB on Sep 30, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also

Eric berry/Taylor Mays watch is still going- going going, going, going.

J.J LOVE SPREADS while RAHEEM MORRIS'S PLAN FOR NFLDOMINECION IS COMING TO AN END.

by 4QB on Sep 30, 2009 7:06 PM EDT reply actions  

This team sucks in so many other spots, Jermaine is hardly a weak spot.

Of course, he can only be a “brighter” spot if he can get on the field. We can’t get rid of him solely based on durability and I think his on field performance is satisfactory to warrant retention. Unless we see our defense getting drastically better at every position next year, there is no reason to get rid of him.

by kurby on Oct 1, 2009 9:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Tanard Jackson > Jermaine Phillips

Sabby Piscatelli’s contract, youth, upside > Jermaine Phillips

by Suttree on Oct 1, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

You're crazy

Piscitelli is not > than Phillips. Last time I checked contract, youth and upside do not win football games. Phillips is more reliable in coverage and neither of them can tackle.

by LeeCaz on Oct 1, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

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