The Point After - Grading out the Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Offense
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Its hard to say how the first team truly looked without Bryant and Clayton in there. The running game was horrible and the line gave Luke no time to do anything. Leftwich looked solid, although he took such a beating that I can’t see him lasting. Freeman looked pretty poised for his first NFL game. Bryan Clark made some nice plays and Josh Johnson was on fire. Lets get him in the backfield with Graham/Ward and Smith for a Buc’s version of the wildcat. Call it ‘The Tampa 3’.
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If Johnson can’t stay as a qb, we can have him as a backup RB/FB/WR if we need him to. Hopefully, he can learn and play the same way as he is.
WHOO, LUKE! LUKE! LUKE!
He doesn't sound like he is interested.....
He may not be intersted in playing any other possition than QB.
http://www.tboblogs.com/index.php/sports/comments/josh-johnson-not-interested-in-wildcat-offense/
It sounds to me that he doesn’t want to get bang up by the defense.
I like this line...
Johnson was at the line of scrimmage calling the plays when the ball was surprisingly snapped to him. Instead of panicking – see Vince Young in the same game – Johnson let his instincts take over.
I don't know why everyone was so high on Leftwich
He was 6-14 for an astounding 43% completion percentage (I know this was just one preseason game) and was not very accurate with his completions anyway…granted there were drops cough Hankton and Urrieta. He left a couple passes high and got very lucky with Clark’s TD catch…Clark deserves the credit for that one. That coupled with his scary long release doesn’t have me thrilled…also that sack play (-17 yds!)…uggg.
I couldn't agree more....
I know to each his own and everyone has their own opinions but if I were asked by a team to scout him my report back would be to pass on him. He is way to much of a risk and don’t forget what little he did do was against the 2nd defense. If he were in when Luke was it would just have likely been multiple sacks or strips. 1st pass deflected and probably would have been intercepted if this were in the regular season. 2nd Was slow delivery and behind the receiver which could have been intercepted. Several times Leftwich’s arm was extended behind him to throw with a defender close enough to slap the ball out if the player realized it or was 1st like they are trained. He may have a strong arm but that is not what makes a good QB. He has poor technique, delivery, takes to many hits and struggled to know when to just throw the ball away or just go down (once he fought to get free so long that he lost 20 yards or so).
Luke was not great by any stretch of the imagination but he did hit his receivers with good throws (that they dropped), had minimual risks with his throws at being intercepted (while mostly on the run), and did not play near the length of time that Leftwich got (which I still don’t get that).
Freeman did look solid as far as mechanics and awareness but also showed his inexperience.
Johnson did look real good with his mechanics, awareness and delivery but you have to take into account that he was against their weakest defense.
Out of the 4 QBs, personally, In my opinion taking everything into consideration and just judging their QB displayed abilities, Leftwich had the worst showing.
He did it to a second team defense with a second team offense
surrounding him. I think Leftwich did goog. If you want to look at that td pass to Clark, Tetris, it was actually a very veteran decision. He threw the pass back towards the sideline because he realized the defender was over pursuing and there was a S in the middle. He wanted Clark to have the best opp at a TD. The play was in no danger of being thrown too far behind Clark, nor was it in danger of being batted down or Intercepted. I am interested to see McCown get those kind of reps.
How did Freeman look solid with his awareness? His mechanics were fine…but that’s not really a knock on him. He missed blitzes and if you look at that INT it was not only late but also a TERRIBLE throw. On a hitch route like that you never throw it back towards the field. If you can’t put it at the WR you put it towards the sideline where the defender has no chance of getting it or the WR can use the sideline to his advantage. Even if it was a smart decision, which it wasn’t, he was about a full second late on it as his receiver stood there. There is no awareness in staring down your reciever like that and not having a clue what the DB is about to do.
“Leftwich had the worst showing”?? He took several hits on long plays….which is natural. Any quarterback, unless they have a stellar offensive line, who is waiting for a play to develop downfeild is going to take a shot. This happened to him at least twice. He was able to move through his progressions unlike Freeman or McCown and had several nice checkdowns. As you pointed out Hankton dropped 3 balls, and Urrita dropped I think two.
To say Leftwich had the “worst” day is ignorant.
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I do think Clark needs to be battling for the 2nd WR position though.
He is solid.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
I dont think Leftwich had the worst day
but I think it wasn’t great. Also tough to evaluate based on everyone playing with different personnel against different personnel. I thought McCown looked bad, but you can attribute some of that to the dismal performance of the OL.
Leftwich was OK for what he was. If our OL is going to break down, I dont want him in there. That 17 yard sack is good evidence (i was laughing during that play since it was so bad). I think
I graded Freeman fairly. Rookie mistakes, but I expect those. I was actually pretty happy with how he did. I dont think he’s a world beater yet, but he didnt look like a bust (yet)
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If its close..
I think Leftwich has still a long road to be called the starter. I still believe that if it is a close race then they are going to go with McCown basically because they can cut Leftwich and not lose a dime. He might’ve played slightly better than McCown on Saturday, but slightly better doesn’t equal millions of dollars.
If we cut Leftwich we will be left with 5 career starts (I think)
I think Leftwich would be a great backup, even next year when Freeman takes over. I think McCown is auditioning for a job with a different team next year. I wonder if we could put JJ on our practice squad or would someone else pick him up.
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I’m inclined to blame Mahan for a lot of the difficulties, since the Titans’ DTs were absolutely manhandling the Bucs’ interior O-line. I’m hoping that things will look better this week with Faine back in the lineup. McCown and Leftwich both looked pretty bad (though Leftwich did look better than McCown, still not a stellar performance) in large part due to the constant pressure Tennessee’s front four was able to generate.
The fact that Leftwich looked better with poor pass protection, though, doesn’t bode well for McCown. Given more time, Leftwich is a better pocket passer. McCown’s a much better athlete, but that won’t matter at all if he doesn’t have to extend plays with his feet. As much as I wanted to see McCown succeed, things are looking kinda bleak for him. He’s going to have to play lights out next week if he wants to win the job.
by OfficerRodFarva on Aug 17, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions
The center is crucial
with the zone-blocking. He typically teams up with one of the guards to block a zone. If the production drops here, the production drops on the entire offensive line. So I would agree that Mahan didn’t help much. I am glad he is a backup, but let’s hope Faine stays healthy and he remains as that.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
My assestment
I have watched the tape over and over (on dvr of coarse). I am going to start with the line. The offensive line did a below average job but they didn’t do a bad job pass blocking.
McCown:
It was discusting to watch. I thought I was watching a bigger version on jeff garcia. This guy should be released before the 3rd preseason game. He is athletic but he doesn’t have any awareness in the pocket. He just thinks dumpdown first and then run.
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It seemed to me we passed the ball too much to start the game. I was excited to see our running backs have a productive day. I agree with OfficerRodFarva, that Faine was a major reason to our O-lines faliures. Plus this new running scheme will take time to develop and everyone has to be on the same page. Its hard to judge McCown and Leftwich with our top receivers out. Leftwich’s mobility scared me, that sack was unacceptable.
Not sure if you are going to do an article on grading out the coaches or if you are just doing the players. Personally, I thought the coaches on both sides of the ball did a great job. Only a few penalties but I think there was one illegal procedure called.
Also I was wondering if anyone had heard anything new on Sears.
I remember when..
Carolina implemented the zone scheme last year. all of the talking heads said it would take about midseason for them to gel and work it correctly, and they seemed to be right. By mid to late season they were running over guys.
I think the same should be said for our line. It might be horrendous to look at for awhile, but will look beautiful by season end. This is why I think next year will be the breakout year for our OL.
It may be ancient history...
but the offense was marginal in the first few games of 2002, remember? Wait until the first couple of games before getting disgusted.
tired of the OL being blamed for McCown inability.
I have watched the game about 4 times and I don’t blame it on the OL. They gave him time, he just needed to get some pocket awareness and learn to step up or to the right or left. That is part of blocking, the OL job is to create a pocket, sometime the pocket isnt going to be created perfectly everytime but you need to adjust. There was often a pocket but like people say, he got happy feet. He dropped back and looked at the first and second receiver and then just took off. That is the problem garcia often had when he struggled. They failed to step up to right or left when it was there. Leftwich showed good pocket awareness.
He had the same line or a worse line than McCown had. Plus , guys are going to perform for who they want and who ever the leader is. Leftwich commanded the huddle better and the OL responded by blocking better. The OL knows who the best QB on the team is and who should be the starter. All of this also plays into blocking, if the OL knows that McCown is going to run, they will just block for 2 seconds. They know leftwich is going to stand back there so they try to block for as long as they can. THey know if they give leftwich time, he is going to make some big plays.
The leader of the huddle is going to command respect and blocking, it is clear who commanded that. Leftwich was able to move the ball because he loosened up the defense first , his passing attempts gave the line confidence that if they do their job , Leftwich will do his. McCown didn’t give the line any confidence because he made them look bad by just running everytime he could. The OL takes pride in protecting the QB but if the QB doesn’t want protection , they aren’t going to give it to him. You could clearly see who the team wanted to run the offense. I look forward to a explosive offense with Leftwich at the QB and it would be nice to see JJ get some reps as the wildcat QB.
I agree with you to a large extent
on finding the pocket. This is part of a quarterback responsibility. However, the O-line had some clear misassignments which led to pressure. Also, you are right about the QB commanding respect and hard work out of a OL, but the guys largely were playing against a 2nd string dline (which isn’t very deep for Tenn) and had different guys filling in on the OLine. Like BucWild has consistently said, it’s hard to compare the two on the same standard. We’ll get a better idea after this weeks game.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
this is true and i can't wait to see the game this week.
The comparison is very simple to me. One guy has proven he can do it and another has proven he can be very unsuccessful. I see leftwich having a good game vs his old team and taking the starting job. McCown has never done it so i don’t expect him to wow bucs fans in one quarter. He got his chance as a starter and proved that he isn’t a starter, maybe he will do good vs jags but he doesn’t have much of an arguement because he will be going against 2nd teamers. If leftwich puts up simular numbers, i would be surprised . I see him doing better than 5 for 9 for 19 yards and 0 pts in the quarter. Those stats are not hard to beat. McCown also got bailed out on a fumble by a facemask call. Not impressive.
I don’t even know if mcCown has a good deep ball because I have never seen it, it is hard to just change your whole game over a week. McCown is a west coast qb , while Leftwich is a gun slinger. The bucs are looking for a gun slinger because they plan on having a powerful run game and need to stretch the defense by being able to complete the deep ball. Leftwich has shown over his career that he can throw the deep ball. This is a easy decision in my opinion.

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