Tampa Bay Buccaneer's Wednesday Morning Links

by Buc Wild on Jul 8, 2009 8:52 AM EDT in News

A few links to start off Wednesday morning. Another day, a few more looks at our ~~inexperienced~~ young team.

Can Morris defy the odds? - Doesn't appear that Vegas is too high on Raheem Morris and company winning the NFC. Maybe if you believe enough you should drop a few clams on the Bucs to win the NFC, you know, if sports betting was legal.

Winslow in Fantasy - Overrated? - Telling us more of what we already know, a fantasy look at Kellen Winslow (Here's a preview; They think Winslow might have a gimpy knee and attitude problem..........shocker).

Glazer's selling off assets - From the financial portion, Glazer's sell the controlling stake in a company George H. Bush started. The Glazer's have had a controlling stake since 1992. What does this mean? Could be nothing, could show they are hurting for cash with Manchester United bleeding. Speculation can be fun, until it hurts your team.

Buccaneer Camp Dilemma - Breaking News: It rains in Florida. That is all.

NFC South Running Game - A quick look at the NFC South, particularly the running backs and how they fared in 2008 with a brief look at 2009.

Wilkerson a breakout player? - This article is a little older, but I wanted to bring it up as not many people are familiar with Jimmy Wilkerson. If you had told me we'd be running Monte's Tampa 2, I'd so "No way is he gonna break out this year". But with Jim Bates in town and his history with Jason Taylor, Trace Armstrong, Ogunleye, and Aaron Kampman, maybe he can make something out of Wilks also. The premise for the article seems far-fetched. ESPN is essentially calling him a break out player mainly due to the fact that he has practiced with the first team in the offseason. Maybe they know something, I certainly wouldn't object to double digit sacks from Wilks.

Bucs need a WR? - According to one columnist they do. And who do they say could fit the bill? Ex-Qb turned WR turned junkie Matt Jones. He is on the young side of things, but unless Dominik does a 180 after saying we didnt need Plax, I can't see Mr. Jones being signed.

That does it for the early morning links of the day.

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+2000 to win NFC South

what does this mean?

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by el capitan hook on Jul 8, 2009 10:43 AM EDT reply actions

It's +2000 to win the NFC, not NFC South

but what it means is that if you bet $100 bucks, and the Bucs won the NFC, you would get $2000 in return. It’s the same as saying the odds are 20 to 1 or 20/1.

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by Buc Wild on Jul 8, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions

In order:

1) Don’t care- gambling on sports is very inaccurate
2) Still don’t care- It’s fantasy- yeah, in their eyes, winslow is pretty worthless
3) THEY GOT A 13O MIL FOR CRISTIANO RONALDO- USE IT GLAZERS, USE IT.
4) Fail- Nobody cares about rain
5) WTF? Saints are going to break the running mark for the season- what on a passing team
6) It’s a long story but the odds of that are very low unless jimmy starts off the season and is essentially on fire for the entire season.
7) Great- we still need WR’s, No we don’t- it’s useless to have more WR’s when 5 other guys are competing for one spot.

Come ON Pat the Bust, Navi can not have more homers than you

by 4QB on Jul 8, 2009 10:53 AM EDT reply actions

If we sign Matt Jones...

…I might dig out my eye with a spoon. Please pass on this overrated former QB. His stats were only decent in 2008 because the Jags haven’t had a decent receiving corp since the Smith/McCardell days. They had to throw to someone.

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by The Bull Gator on Jul 8, 2009 12:44 PM EDT reply actions

Man Utd bleeding?

As a Man Utd first and foremost (I live in the UK) and a Bucs fan in a close second, I don’t think it’s totally accurate to say Man Utd are ‘bleeding’. The structure of the club is not straightforward and is split into 3 companies, which are:
The actual club, Man Utd (£66m)
The UK based parent company, Red Football Joint Ventures Ltd (-£44.8m)
How the Glazers hold their interest in the club, Red Football Ltd (-£21.4m)

I have put the 2007/08 profits/losses for each of the companies in brackets after them. So a quick calculation shows that overall the Man Utd ‘group’ are losing just £200k. Obviously this isn’t too good for the club especially as that season was their best in a while and it was really pre-recession, but its not totally terrible. Just had to clarify the bleeding definition!

However after the massive transfer fee received for Ronaldo (£80m), and various other smaller fees received the club has only spent £19m so far on 3 players. One of which is a washed up player who was great in his day, but this isn’t the case anymore, ala Marvin Harrison! Man Utd may still get a ‘big name’ player this summer before the transfer window closes at the end of August but I don’t think this is a certainty.

This is turning into a long comment, but my last paragraph as well as figures released regarding the Bucs and player costs and also the Glazers selling off assets, leads me to the belief that the Glazers are really beginning to curb costs. Now this is probably no great shock to most of you guys, but I just wanted to fill you in a bit more about the other side of the Glazers ownership

by raul249 on Jul 9, 2009 4:01 AM EDT reply actions

Thanks for the info!

Since you seem to have a pretty good knowledge of the Man U deal, let me ask you this. I’ve heard and it’s been speculated that the Glazer’s financed the Man U deal with some revolving and balloon debt which is really jumping rate-wise currently. Is there any truth to this?

I’ve looked here and here for some info. Is this all misinformation or are these guys painting an accurate picture?

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by Buc Wild on Jul 9, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions

As we all know its tough to find any accurate info about the Glazers

But from my understanding when they bought us £175m of it was a ‘payment in kind’ loan with an interest rate of 14.5% . The interest keeps rolling over to the next year rather than getting paid off, until the loan is matured. I’m not even sure if that makes sense but google “payment in kind loan” and you should be filled in a bit better! But it is a very expensive form of financing and the main reason why Man Utd profits aren’t as high as they should be.

I have no idea when the loan matures or can be negotiated, but if it is long term then there could be real difficulties for the Glazers in supporting 2 sports teams. Man Utd make the 2nd most turnover out of all the football/soccer clubs in the world and will have plenty of potential buyers, but I would guess they would make a loss if they sold Man Utd now

by raul249 on Jul 9, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions