Announcing the Buc 'Em Ring of Honor!
by The Bull Gator on May 13, 2009 10:59 AM EDT
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UPDATE: Nominating is now closed.
With the 2009 NFL Draft coming to a close, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers family has grown. With each player added to the roster there is a chance for future greatness. There could be a first-rounder destined to be a legend. Or a diamond in the rough that proves to be a valuable contributor for years to come. No matter how they became Bucs, they will all strive over their careers to be the best. We don’t know what the future holds for the current Tampa Bay Buccaneers players, but we do know how past Bucs performed. So, we officially announce the Buc ‘Em Ring of Honor.
Each year (before the start of the new season), we will be inducting two former Tampa Bay Buccaneers into the Buc ‘Em Ring of Honor and you have a chance to choose who those individuals are are.
The criteria are simple: they must be a former Buccaneer (don’t worry, active players will get their chance one day) and they must be known primarily for what they did as a member of the team (players or staff are acceptable). The reasoning behind these rules is we don’t want to prematurely induct someone still playing just because they had a Pro Bowl year or two. This is really for the best of the best. And this isn’t about what the player or coach did in college or for other teams. It’s about what they brought to the pewter and red.
So here’s how it works. Starting today, you can nominate whoever you like. Please add your nominations in the form of a comment to this post. And don’t forget to say why you believe each individual should be selected. What you say could have an impact on whether that individual ends up making the Ring of Honor or not. If someone has already nominated someone you had in mind, then please add your thoughts as well. The more reasons you give us, the better.
You have until May 15th (next Friday) to make your nominations, so don’t delay!
Once we have compiled the nominations, we will post bios about each person nominated to give everyone a better look at their overall body of work. That will be followed by fan voting, where you get the chance to select one of the inductees to the Ring of Honor. Once that post is up, you will also be notified of the voting deadline. The individual that receives the highest percentage of the vote will be one of the two inductees and the second will be selected by the Buc ‘Em staff.
Before the season starts, we will have official inductions into the Buc ‘Em Ring of Honor and those individuals will become a part of history. So, what are you waiting for. Let the nominations begin!
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…the first person to correctly guess the first two inductees, wins a pat on the back. We’re givers here at Buc ’Em.
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LeRoy Selmon and Derrick Brooks will be the first two inductees.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
My vote:
John Lynch – Nobody defined the Bucs Super Bowl team more than John Lynch. He was an intense player a good community guy and an intrical part to the Tampa 2. He will be remembered as a “hard-hitter” which he did extremely well, but we was a more polished player than just a enforcer in the middle of the field. He had great football IQ and displayed it on each play.
Steve Spurrier Mike Alstott – Even when the Bucs offense struggled mightily you knew one guy would give his all every single play. He wasn’t the best blocking full-back, but he displayed John Riggins and Larry Czonka type ability and matched their tenacity with his athleticism. He too defined the character of the Bucs.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
Lynch + Alstott
I agree with both players as they Redefined their positions:
Lynch – His ability to come up to the line and cause havoc, play man coverage (when needed), and cover a large portion of the field in the Tampa-2 Defense changed the requirements of the position. Teams/coaches were all looking for the next John Lynch.
A-Train – Yet another above and beyond the position example, Mike’s ability to catch the ball, create his own holes in the line, or just move the entire line forward…were keys to both his and the Bucs success. The Full back position has never been looked at the same and has led to use of multiple RB combinations (Earth, Wind, and Fire, Smash & Dash, etc…) versus the old I-formation Fullback lead blocker for the Half-back that was dominate throughout the league prior to the A-Train.
I vote
Mike Alstott and Warren Sapp
I cant comment on pre-Pewter as I had never heard of American Football!
LeRoy Selman and Paul Gruber
Most will not remember the old days of the Winking Pirate that many of us suffered through. I have a a fan since 1976, thanks to John McKay and being in love with USC football at 11 years old.
Paul Gruber was the greatest left tackle this team has ever seen. Given the importance of the position, it should be no wonder why he should be inducted..
Selmon’s selection speaks for itself.
Thanks
Derrick Brooks and Warren Sapp
Also wanna Add John Lynch Best he’s a beast. ( Who Said i can’t pick 3?) lmao
No one said you can't pick 3.
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by The Bull Gator on May 5, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
That was for everyone...
…not just you. It seems like most people nominated 2. Everyone can nominate as many as they’d like.
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by The Bull Gator on May 5, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Well then Since you mentioned it
Mike Alstott
Lee Roy Selmon
Keenan Mccardell (i think i spelled that right)
Joe Jurvicouis (i think i mispelled that one to)
First Two
If its anybody then the first two are a no brainer. Lee Roy Selmon and John McKay. If it has to be players then Lee Roy and Ricky Bell.
ROH NOMINEE
Gotta go with LEE ROY SELMON as the first inductee.Glad to see the ROH has finally gotten started!
Lee Roy Selmon and Derrick Brooks
How can we not go with these two? Extraordinary players and fine men, both.
Okay people...
…reread the post.
You can nominate as many as you want. This isn’t the vote, it’s just the nomination. You can nominate as many as you like. Then once nominations are closed, we will conduct a vote. Based on who you (the readers) vote for, that will be one induction. The other will be chosen by the Buc ’Em staff.
I’m also going to clarify above that it doesn’t have to be a player. Although I don’t know if I personally would vote for Culverhouse. His tight pockets basically caused the pain through the 80s and early 90s. That and he was an ass. But that’s just a personal opinion. But hey, you guys can nominate and vote for whoever you want.
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A quick update of the nominees...
So far the following individuals have been nominated:
John Lynch
Mike Alstott
Warren Sapp
Lee Roy Selmon (Come on people, he’s arguably one of the greatest players in the team’s history…it’s Lee Roy!)
Derrick Brooks
John McKay
Hugh Culverhouse
Oh and E.J. Biggers, but I’m 99% sure OfficerRodFarva was kidding.
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i second ej biggers!
"yesterdays a cancelled check, today is money on the line, tommarow is a promisary note" - unknown
"the trouble with me is that my ego just cant accept a loss" -Vince Lombardi
"i dont know any way to lead but by example" -Don Shula
"the only place that success comes before work is in the dictionary" -unknown
"the harder you work the harder it is for you to surrender" -vince lombardi
Nominees
Derrick Brooks
Leroy Selmon
John Lynch
Doug Williams
Warren Sapp
Paul Gruber
Glad someone else mentioned Gruber...
…I missed him in my update post just above. I’ll get another one out tomorrow when others have more time to add some people.
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by The Bull Gator on May 5, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
everybody is looking past
what RICH MCKAY did for us bring in dungy making us condenders
then the 1995 draft did Brooks and Sapp the other way around, mckay would have been the next comish , if the vick thing never would have happenen, so its KIFFEN and RICH MCKAY
The other JJ...
How can we forget the man that had two of the biggest catches during the Super Bowl run? The other JJ, Joe Jurevicius. This guy played when noone should have and had some of the best highlight catches from the post season.
My nominations:
Selman
Brooks
Quarles
Gruber
Lynch
Alstott
Jurevicius
Nominees for Ring of Honor
Pre-Dungy honorees:
Lee Roy Selmon – First Buc, and the most honored. The man who defined the team as a defensive powerhouse.
Paul Gruber – top-notch OT, 3-time Pro Bowler during the years the Bucs teams sucked rhino.
James Wilder – kinda surprised no one’s yet nominated one of the few RBs to do well in a Bucs uni.
Jimmy Giles – 4-time Pro Bowl TE and one of Doug Williams’ favorite targets
Mark Carrier – Pro Bowl WR, one of the few WRs drafted that did well on the team.
Hardy Nickerson – FA acquisition who led the defense and the team when few in the league would accept such responsibility, 5-time Pro Bowler and listed on the NFL’s All-Decade team for the 90s (while he did well under Dungy, Wyche is the coach who brought him in and he did great under Wyche’s tenure)
Coach John McKay – “Coach, what about the offense’s execution?” “I’m in favor of it.”
Dungy/Gruden era:
Tony Dungy – literally brought the team respect, wins, postseason appearances after more than a decade of suffering.
Warren Sapp – drafted by Wyche but flourished under Dungy/Gruden. Multiple Pro-Bowler, 99 Defensive Player of the Year, Super Bowl winner
Derrick Brooks (currently non-rostered, but could be signed) – drafted by Wyche but flourished under Dungy/Gruden. Multiple Pro-Bowler, 02 Defensive Player of the Year, cliched SB win with INT TD, only Selmon is more revered among Bucs fans.
John Lynch – drafted by Wyche, flourished under Dungy. Multiple Pro-Bowler, Super Bowl winner, listed in Top 10 Most Feared Tacklers by NFL Films.
Warrick Dunn – 3-time Pro Bowler, Offensive Rookie of the Year 1997, Walter Payton Man of the Year for charity work
Mike Alstott – Second Buc to officially have his number retired. 6-time Pro Bowler, SB winner (with 1 rushing TD). Contributed more highlight film to ESPN than any other Buc with some stunning short-yard (and a few long-yard) TDs.
Karl Williams – Special Teams contributions with 5 punt returns for TD in his Bucs career.
Relive the shocking NOOOOOOOO of April 25 2009 at Witty's Draft Review and laugh laugh laugh...
Mike Alstotts
Jersey has not officially been retired.
That ceremony was just a gift of his jerseys to Mike, and a celebration to Mike. No one will probably ever wear a 40 again, but Im 95% sure that OFFICIALLY, no. 40 has not been retired yet.
..and with the 17th Pick of the 2009 draft, The Tampa Bay Buccaneers remove the Doug Williams Curse!
by Niko Houllis on May 7, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I think they retired his jersey...
…but not his number yet. If that makes sense. NFL.com only has Selmon listed among numbers retired by the Bucs.
What I mean between jersey and number is some teams do this for some odd reason. FSU fans can correct me, but I believe only Deion Sanders and Farooq have their numbers retired at FSU, but some others (Charlie Ward, Chris Weinke, Warrick Dunn) have their jerseys retired. I think I’m getting that right. Not 100% sure.
Basically some teams reserve the number honor for the best of the best and the jersey for the second tier.
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by The Bull Gator on May 7, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Guys, I found this link extremely cool. It voted on Bucs best ever drafted players according to which round they were picked
Here’s the link: http://www.buccaneers.com/news/newsdetail.aspx?newsid=7052
by TheUltimateBucFan on May 6, 2009 12:06 AM EDT reply actions
Here's my list in no particular order for the Buc Em Ring of Honor
Lee Roy Selmon Paul Gruber Warren Sapp
Ricky Bell Vinny Testeverde Ronde Barber
Richard “Batman” Woods Mark Carrier Shelton Quarles
James Wilder Reggie Cobb Martin Gramatica
Jimmy Giles Randy Grimes Tony Dungy
Hugh Green Tony Mayberry John McKay
Doug Williams Donald Igwebuike Jon Gruden
Kevin House John Lynch Monte Kiffen
Hardy Nickserson Dexter Jackson Dewey Selmon
Charlie Hannah Derrick Brooks Trent Dilfer
Scott Brantley Warrick Dunn Donnie Abraham
David Logan Mike Alstott Eric Rhett
OK…I think I covered all the bases. I didn’t include current players. And obviously some players deserve to go more than others. But all mention on this list were imo deserving enough to be remembered as Buccaneers. Sorry the names run together.
by TheUltimateBucFan on May 6, 2009 12:37 AM EDT reply actions
Wow...
…people are going to have about 50 individuals they can vote for! Haha. That’s not a bad thing though.
But I have to say Reggie Cobb? Cobb is really among the best Bucs of all-time? I’ll admit Cobb was a part of some bad, bad teams, so it wasn’t all his fault he couldn’t get going too well, but the guy was not a good running back. He went over 1,000 yards in 1992 only because we continued to give him the ball so much. Errict Rhett was really the same thing. Neither of those guys managed a single season in which they averaged even 4 yards a carry.
I’m not opposed to the nominations, after all the point of this is for anyone to be able to nominate whoever they see fit, but to me Dunn, Alstott, Wilder, and Bell are in a different classification than Cobb and Rhett. Even Bell (rest in peace), only really had one good year.
I love the Tony Mayberry nomination! People tend to completely forget about him, but he was pretty darn solid for quite some time.
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by The Bull Gator on May 6, 2009 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions
lmao...I wanted to represent for all the former Bucs out there.
But seriously, let me break up the most deserving players in 3 tiers. Those who didn’t make it just don’t cut the mustard.
Group One:
LeeRoy Selmon, Derrick Brooks, Mike Alstott, Warren Sapp, John Lynch, Paul Gruber, Doug Williams, John McKay
Group Two:
Warrick Dunn, Kevin House, James Wilder, Jimmie Giles, Rickey Bell, Tony Mayberry, Ronde Barber, Monte Kiffin, Jon Gruden, Tony Dungy
Group Three:
Richard “Batman” Woods, David Logan, Scott Brantley, Hugh Green, Hardy Nickerson, Shelton Quarles
Oh yeah, and Hugh Culverhouse should NEVER be associated with any Buccaneer Ring Of Honor. Whoever thinks he should needs to quit sniffing the glue.
by TheUltimateBucFan on May 6, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you so much for the Culverhouse comment!!!
I agree with you 110% I will fight to never have him be inducted.
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by The Bull Gator on May 6, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Culverhouse
has like two lives…the part that brought Buc football here, and where he was looked at as a class owner and part of a class organization, but that half ends in 82 when he let Doug Williams go, and went with the Cheap Pockets and strangled the Bucs.
I like the first part of Mr. C, but for the most part, you cant look past the rest. Down with MR C in HOF.
..and with the 17th Pick of the 2009 draft, The Tampa Bay Buccaneers remove the Doug Williams Curse!
by Niko Houllis on May 7, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
You truly are the Ultimate Buc Fan!!
unfortunately, alot of those players were just very good players on our not so good teams :(
I like the David Logan. I forgot about David (RIP). Id also like to add Scott Brantley.
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Thanks man! I really am a big fan, but you have the more tenure I think than me.
Niko has been watching the Bucs for as long as I’ve been alive so for that you are the Ultimate Buc Fan! As for some of the selections? I know that Double Nickel is more of a shoo in than say a Tony Mayberry or some of the others I have on the list.
However, every one of the players I chose had an impact on the Buccaneers as well as in this community and for that they deserve to be mentioned. I widdled down my list because obviously Eric Rhett has nothing on a guy like Mike Alstott for example. That’s why I broke it down in 3 groups. With that being said, I must say I love reading all the input on this post. Brings back memories of some great players…and some not so great! Ha!
by TheUltimateBucFan on May 7, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Come on
It has to be Lee Roy Selmon, Doug Williams, Ricky Bell or Kevin House. These 4 orseman led the Bucs to there 1st winning season and 1 game away from the Super Bowl in 1979.
Nominees
Simple,
Lee Roy Selmon
Derrick Brooks
then,
Alstott, Dunn, Quarles,Sapp, Lynch, Nickerson, Wilder.
Mike was the definition of what it meant to be a buc.
the only reason he goes after Derrick, is well because everyone comes after Derrick.
I saw an orange Nickerson jersey at Sports Fan-Attic this weekend...
…it was authentic and on sale for $39.99. So tempted to pick it up. He wasn’t the first Buc I remember (I was a fan long before he came around), but he was the first I really remember from when I really lived and breathed football. Before him, it was mostly just little kid fandom. But when he was around was when I knew a lot more about the game and really followed it.
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by The Bull Gator on May 6, 2009 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Monte Kiffen - Lee Roy Selmon - Warren Sapp
Monte Kiffen - Architect of the Tampa 2 – without him the players we have come to love wouldn’t be
Lee Roy Selmon - We owe so much to him and how he helped make opponents offense actually fear us. Plus he has the best freakin food I have ever tasted. I think I am drooling about his Nachos right now….
Warren Sapp - No one could contain him, everyone around him that ever got a sack or got close to the opponent QB or RB in the backfield should thank Warren, he was so disruptive to offensive planning that I’m pretty sure many of our wins were due to his play alone.
Despite the obvious personality issues...
…I actually think Key was a good addition on the field. People tend to forget how good a blocker he was. He helped spring running backs on more than one occasion. Although most of what we heard about him were attitude issues, he realistically was one of the most productive receivers in the team’s history.
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by The Bull Gator on May 6, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey why not
Keyshawn and Joey Galloway (funny how they are related in Bucdom) are probably two of the best receivers. Mark Carrier is another one. Kevin House too. Those four cannot be left out of any WR conversation. Then I have a bunch of lesser ones, Karl Williams, Lawrence Dawsey, Joe Jurivicious, Keenan McCardell had a great two years, I mean GREAT!
My fav though was Larry Mucker. Anyone remember him???
..and with the 17th Pick of the 2009 draft, The Tampa Bay Buccaneers remove the Doug Williams Curse!
by Niko Houllis on May 7, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Just not for the Bucs Ring of Honor
Yes, Key was a very good WR and certainly one of the best blocking WR’s in the game but….he did not do enough as a Buc to warrant being placed in the ring of honor. I can’t put him on the wall with Selmon, Brooks, Sapp, Lynch, Alstott.
Sapp
In 9 years with the Bucs he had 7 Pro Bowls, 1 Defensive Player of the Year, 77 Sacks and 1 Super Bowl Ring.
I say you have to have an offensive and defensive player.
I am going to go with Lee Roy Selmon and Doug Williams. Without those two I am not sure that we would have won a game in our franchise history.
Honorable mention to Michael Spurlock too …31 years without a kick off return for a TD … and he finally does it … he almost has to be in there somewhere. Cavieat for special teams.
gotta have a special teams category!
kamikaze extraordinaire mike lemon is my nominee. a backup linebacker, mike was as crazy off the field as he was on it. popular with the cheerleaders too.
john mckay, lee roy and derrick brooks are no-brainers.
the best part of this idea though is reading the names of bucs i had long since forgotten.
keep up the good work.
It's not going to be split up by categories.
If we happen to induct 10 defensive players straight, so be it. But I definitely love the special teams nod. Good work!
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by The Bull Gator on May 6, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Selmon and Sapp
then Brooks and Lynch then Alstott and Dungy
If I had it my way, all of them would go at the same time.
Derrick Brooks and Doug Williams
Brooks: Spent his entire career with the same team, never missed a game, 10 Pro Bowls, a Defensive Player of the Year, a Super Bowl ring…
Little else need be said.
Williams: He lacks the team success of the Monte Kiffin-coached nominees (i.e. Brooks), but I have him here for a number of reasons.
First off, he led the Bucs to three playoff appearances and helped ease the pain of the franchise’s inauspicious start in the NFL.
Second, his contribution to the team did not end as a player, as he is currently the coordinator of pro scouting for TB. This is a double boon for the Ring of Honor, getting nomination as both a player and a member of the brass.
Third, the guy deserves to be known as more than just the first Af-Am QB to win the Super Bowl. What better way than providing a detail of his career before the Redskin/Canadian football years?
Fourth, just the fact that he was an Af-Am QB was remarkable. Back in those days, most Af-Ams played wide receiver, running back etc., but not quarterback. The Bucs were taking a risk just by letting a guy who played QB stay a QB.
Fifth, he came as close as anyone in the franchise came to being the franchise QB. (No, Doug Johnson was not a franchise QB.) Shouldn’t that count for something?
Addendum on Brooks...
10+ Pro Bowls, never suspended, a pro’s pro.
If he doesn’t get resigned, he belongs in the Ring.
DE Lee Roy Selmon QB Doug Williams RB Ricky Bell TE Jimmy Giles RB James Wilder LB Hugh Green
There will be plenty of time for Pewter People to get in. First wave should be 75% Orange.
Lee Roy Selmon- Our only Hall of Famer (to date) Often had to break through triple teams and still got the sack.
Doug Williams- Before Doug, 2 Wins in 3 years. After Doug, 4 wins in 2 years. During? 3 of 4 years in playoffs.
Ricky Bell In 1979, had over 1200 yards and set record # Carries in playoff win over Phily. Passed away in 84. Still holds major records in Bucs record books. Mixed amazing speed and hands with Big Body!
Jimmy Giles
James Wilder was the only light in our darkest days. 1500+ rushing in 84, unstoppable Buc Back.
Hugh Green was undersized DE that McKay let loose as LB and he was a terror. Never noticed during LT years.
Second Year-
Warren Sapp
John Lynch
Mike Alstott
Tony Dungy
Hardy Nickerson
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Fun trivia...
…what other 2 members of the Hall of Fame played for the Bucs?
Selmon is the only one really known for being a Buc of course.
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by The Bull Gator on May 7, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Randall McDaniell
is one..
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by Niko Houllis on May 7, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Correct.
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by The Bull Gator on May 7, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Steve Young
would be the other.
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by Niko Houllis on May 7, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
And correct.
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by The Bull Gator on May 7, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
ignore the scratch out lines
im not sure how they got in there! newbie
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by Niko Houllis on May 7, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Lee Roy Selmon and Derrick Brooks
2 most important players in team history, period! Once they are in, we can debate over the rest.
I'll start with Lee Roy Selmon
Because he was the first great Buc, and was a one-man wrecking crew.
I’ll also nominate:
Dungy – because he taught this team how to win consistently.
Warren Sapp – because he is the greatest DT of his generation.
Derrick Brooks – because he was so good people now use terms like, “He’s a Derrick Brooks-type linebacker.”
John Lynch – he was a great player, and in many ways the personification of what made the D so good for so long.
Monte Kiffin – who coached one of the truly great defensive units in the history of the NFL and it seems like the whole league is running the Tampa 2 now.
Mike Alstott – for making defensive units quit on the field (the game against Minnesota is one of my all time favorites)
isaac haggins
what about isaac haggins being in the ring of honor for being the most represented Buc in football follies; the best was him running free deep down field against the Lions only to have the pass bounce off his face mask; I know I am showing my age – I remember watching that game live! All joking aside, I think Selmon, Wilder, Williams, Nickerson, Alstott, Brooks, Sapp, and Lynch are the first inductees.
Ring of Honor
Wow, great discussion going and mostly excellent choices from all eras of Buc Ball. I think we should start with coaches, because so few of them deserve mention. Culverhouse had ‘his Lombardi;’ but in my humble opinion, Tony Dungy and Monte Kiffin need to be our first 2 inductees. The debate over worthy players can go on for years; but these 2 coaches deserve it ahead of anybody else. Again, just my humble opinion. Luv ya Tony, miss ya Monte, and of course…GO BUCS!!!!!!!!!!
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here are my nominees:Ricky Bell,James Wilder,Kevin House,Richard “Batman” Woods,Steve Wilson,John Lynch,Brad Culpepper,Hugh Green,Derrick Brooks,Warren Sapp & Bill Kollar
Suggestion
I’m not sure what the criteria are for determining what constitutes a successful nomination, but I respectfully suggest that all potential nominees should be seconded (either explicitly or by having been nominated by more than one poster) before being considered for the ballot.
Thanks for the suggestion...
…we are actually trying to figure something out in respect to that because not to bash on any of the nominations, but at this point we have about 50 different people that would be on the ballot. While I appreciate every nomination, there’s no point in us listing guys we know won’t get votes. So we will do something to narrow down the list. Maybe only ones that were mentioned twice. Maybe only the 10 with the most mentions. Who knows. But thanks for the suggestion and we are looking into it.
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by The Bull Gator on May 14, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
or the WINNERS are
YOU BUCS FANS (cheering no matter what, i did boo jon gruden his last game)
NEW UNIFORMS (no more creamcyicle)
NEW STADIUM (it just feels like a place for winning)
AND OF COURSE GENE DECKERHOFF (Alstott up the gut)
alstott and dunn
because they were a great one two punch on madden. haha
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